by Susan Kepecs
Part mad physicist, part swashbuckler, part
philosopher, part choreographer, extreme action specialist Elizabeth Streb
slams into uncharted performance territory with death-defying delight. In the course of her extraordinary career
she’s received a MacArthur Genius award, been commissioned to send dancers
bungee jumping off London landmarks during the 2012 Summer Olympics, bounded
down the side of Manhattan’s Whitney Museum of Art (a 2010 reenactment of a
1970 work by Trisha Brown, a grande dame of postmodern dance), published a book
titled Streb: How to Become an Extreme
Action Hero (CUNY, 2010), and opened a public extreme action laboratory in
Brooklyn called S.L.A.M. (Streb Lab for Action Mechanics) – “a gathering spot
for the exchange of creative ideas across cultures,” it says on her website. Streb’s Extreme Action Company last performed
in Madison at the Wisconsin Union Theater in 2004; they return this coming Wednesday,
April 16, this time to Overture Hall, with Streb’s current show, “Forces.”
When there are no public
monuments to fly from, as there usually aren’t under the proscenium arch, Streb
invents these crazy Rube Goldberg-esque machines that turn the stage into a
dangerous playground. Now 63, Streb
leaves most of the wild physical feats she devises to her company of extreme
action heroes, who fling themselves into space from high scaffolding suspended
over trampolines, somersault up and down walls while suspended from complicated
harnesses, or spin in a gigantic “whizzing gizmo” – Cirque de Soleil meets the
wildest styles of Olympic snowboarding in Albert Einstein’s laboratory. I had a fabulous chat with Streb on the phone
a few weeks ago, which I’ll share with you here:
CulturalOyster:
A lot of what you do involves breaking the barriers of gender, class, and
formal dance genres. The postmodernists
– especially the Judson Dance Theater choreographers of the ‘60s (including
Trisha Brown) aimed for a sense of populism, too, but you do it in a much
different, very intense form. Since you essentially call what you do dance,
what’s your own dance background?
Streb:
My dance background is scattered – I didn’t start till I was 17. I majored in dance at SUNY Brockport. I had always considered myself an extreme
action specialist. From 4 to 17 I did
downhill skiing, baseball, basketball; I was riding motorcycles. The idea of forces and impact really entered
my body – I was fascinated by all the things that happen even before a move
gets started. I got into the dance
studio [in college] and I was an idiot savant.
Why are they asking me to count?
Real movement, it doesn’t seem possible that you can count it – you have
to do it, be in it. In retrospect I was
the odd woman out, but I wouldn’t have asked the questions I ask if I’d started
dancing at an early age.
I’ve wondered ever since
then – if you’re counting, if you’re not out of control, is it really
movement? The subject for me is about
always falling, always being in a state of emergency, so the audience can feel
the action. From my point of view that
happens when the dancer isn’t planning the moves in advance, even though the
piece is totally choreographed. The Judson choreographers were brilliant – for
them anything that moved could be dance, the idea was to examine new grammars. So I call what I do dance, but maybe I don’t
belong in the dance world.
CulturalOyster:
You’ve created a very open studio environment in Brooklyn, which is also about
breaking through barriers. Performing at
your studio is totally different than performing under the proscenium arch –
how does that affect your work when you’re on tour?
Streb: I
think what we try to do is bring the wildness [to the stage]. We think of ourselves as types of action
movement inventors who can only reside where the wild things roam. We hope that although our shows are in their
dance series, presenters sell them as a different kind of physical experience. I have a DJ, he’s also my Emcee – he comes
onstage to welcome the audience in a way that introduces S.L.A.M. to the world
whether it’s under the proscenuim or not.
Right away we get the word out that this is wild and crazy. We like to say that people of all ages, from a
year old to 90 or 100, recognize what we’re doing. Our dancers perform very
personally – our dream is that the audience feels a personal connection. I keep the audience attention through the
drama of the moves, which intensifies when it’s personalized. My intention is to get you to feel that
you’ve done a lot of the moves yourself – the kinesthetic experience is the
subject, the meaning, and the content of our shows. I can’t tell a story – I don’t want to do
what writers or filmmakers do. I want to
ask what is the actual content of action? I want the audience to feel that
they’ve taken a crazy, wild ride.
CulturalOyster:
Your work is related, in an abstract and conceptual way, to the kinds of extreme
sports I’ve been watching at the Olympics – the snowboarding, the ski-jumping. You’ve said that what you do is about flying
while not camoflaging gravity, and
that’s what the Olympians do, too – but the training protocols for these extreme
sports have to be somewhat specific to each one. What kinds of training do your dancers get in
order to be able to carry out your risky choreography – and how much of it is
technique, versus just plain guts and grit?
Streb: A
lot of it is technique, though we try to make it look like an accident ‘cause
that’s the iambic pentameter of action, the archetypal time-space-body
phenomenon. The dancers’ training has to
be pervasive – it depends on their weakest link. A really thin woman hanging onto a beam needs
to lift weights, for example. I’m not an
educator – I’m a specialist in inventing action and designing sets – but they
go to the gym, to yoga, to Alexander technique, aerobics – Streb technique is a
combination of aerobic and anerobic. We
have one dance where a big hill comes down – dancers run up and down the hill
and after 30 seconds their legs are shot.
The type of training they do to have their legs handle that is like what
downhill skiiers have to do.
Sometimes my dancers have
to fall onto mats from a height of 40 feet – their bodies have to be able to
take that hit going 35 mph. The mat
deflects it somewhat, but as a mathmetician friend said, bodies don’t really
bounce – the impact is absorbed in the deformation of the body. The organs, the
nerves, the metabolism are affected. To
do Streb you have to have the heart, soul and desire to go higher, faster –
each dancer has to be able physically and metaphysically. They have to train their psyches. I can see it in their eyes if they’re not
going to work out. There’s not a lot of
turnover, most of my dancers have at least several years in the company.
People say why do you want to do that? Everyone has a different answer, but it’s just a passion of people who choose movement. It’s just a dream. You’re not born wanting to be an extreme action specialist, but in their individual ways my dancers want to find out how far their body can go. They feel they’re participating in something beyond what humans have done before – facing their fears, one and then the next. All of the physical things I’ve done myself seem outrageous afterwards. I really feel transformed, I feel there’s nothing I can’t do.
People say why do you want to do that? Everyone has a different answer, but it’s just a passion of people who choose movement. It’s just a dream. You’re not born wanting to be an extreme action specialist, but in their individual ways my dancers want to find out how far their body can go. They feel they’re participating in something beyond what humans have done before – facing their fears, one and then the next. All of the physical things I’ve done myself seem outrageous afterwards. I really feel transformed, I feel there’s nothing I can’t do.
CulturalOyster:
What’s the age limit on that kind of extreme movement?
Streb: I
guess I’m the guinea pig. I stopped at
48, though I’m 63 now and I still do some extreme things. You could say I let them happen to me, rather
than do them. For the groundbreaking for
the new downtown Whitney [in 2011] I let a ton of dirt fall on my head.
But
everyone’s different in terms of when they stop. If I took an average I’d say people usually
leave the company in their mid-30s, but Fabio Tavares was a baby when he came
in, and he’s 37 now. I had one dancer
stay till 44. Some leave young because
they worry about their futures, but now they make better salaries, so that’s
less of an issue now.
The thing about Streb
technique is that when you get more experienced you get better. We work very fast – like in skiing, there’s
no time to make adjustments. And as it
goes on it’s less abusive to bodies. We
take a lot of impact – your bones get stronger because of that.
CulturalOyster:
What kinds of questions are driving your choreographic explorations of gravity,
risk, time and space?
Streb: Everything
I’ve ever made starts with a question. The
2012 Olympics [when her extreme action heroes, at night and wearing red, danced
on the spokes of the mammoth London Eye Ferris Wheel on the bank of the River
Thames] provoked an entire inquiry. People
could look up and see these tiny red dots doing a kind of ballet 400 feet above
the ground, and they’re thinking “is that a person up there?”
I thought, could it be it’s not what the dancers are doing that’s important, but where they are and what’s happening to them because of where they are, and because of the forces they have to contend with on the journey? It broke apart my concept of theatrical dance. Should dance be trapped in the theater or in the urban environment, where the audience is an unsuspecting person walking by and you’ve constructed this moment and they glance over and see it – there’s a surprise, something they see another person doing that changes them forever.
Right now I’m wondering,
what is time? What’s the present
tense? Can I choreograph a thousand
nows, so every half-second you’re like, ah, ah, ah! The Aha! moment doesn’t stop. That’s the holy grail. I saw it a couple of times in London. And I see it in this show [Forces] – it’s the
best show I’ve ever made. And I try to
imagine – what’s the next thing I’m going to be doing?
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